Author Topic: The Missing Muscle, Inc. Much Maligned Mopar Motegi Match--CLOSED  (Read 4772 times)

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Re: The Missing Muscle, Inc. Much Maligned Mopar Motegi Match
« Reply #75 on: August 17, 2008, 04:17:11 PM »
Pretty much as larry said - that section is one of the key areas. I generally try to avoid going more than halfway across the track on exit of turns 2 & 3 to avoid compromising the next corner. I also short shift up to 4th for 4&5 so as to allow me to use more throttle through the corner.

Another thing to be wary of is giving it too much gas too early coming out of the slow corners. As Larry siad, you have to slow down to speed up.
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Re: The Missing Muscle, Inc. Much Maligned Mopar Motegi Match
« Reply #76 on: August 17, 2008, 04:23:54 PM »
Here is the final for me:

Challenger
Motegi East: 88.973
Motegi Speedway: 39.126

Barracuda
Motegi East: 89.969
Motegi Speedway: 39.543


Found a couple tenths with the Challenger on the speedway by fiddling with tire pressures. Ended up with 28/30 - decent turn-in, and the oversteer was under control coming onto the straights. My xbox cries Enough!
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Re: The Missing Muscle, Inc. Much Maligned Mopar Motegi Match
« Reply #77 on: August 17, 2008, 05:56:28 PM »
I actually think I do ok on the first half of the track.  At least I can beat my ghost there.  I lose it on the last half.
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Re: The Missing Muscle, Inc. Much Maligned Mopar Motegi Match
« Reply #78 on: August 17, 2008, 08:39:23 PM »
Here's what was ruining me on Motegi, and i didn't realize it until I ran against my ghost:

On Motegi East, perhaps more than any other track I've hot-lapped, the split-times are misleading.

I was getting faster individual split times when my exit speeds leading into a straight out of a combination were low. This is a consequence of the split being taken after the combination, and NOT at the end of the straight. When I finally raced with a ghost, this significance became painfully obvious. I'd get really excited when my first split was 0.250 faster, then I'd get passed by my ghost with a slower split, but faster exit speed.

The other thing that was killing my lap time:

Torque. I was using torque to cover a bad line coming out of the turns that led into the critical straight sections. I didn't realize how badly I was doing it until I turned about 15 laps in a car with half the torque of a Barracuda or Challenger, the BMW 3.0 CSL. When I went back to Motegi East with the "Little Fish" after racing the BMW, my lines and exit speeds improved by leaps and bounds.

YMMV, but I hope that helps.

PS: larryCR's right about being smooth. 
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Re: The Missing Muscle, Inc. Much Maligned Mopar Motegi Match
« Reply #79 on: August 18, 2008, 05:32:46 AM »
Maybe we should start calling him smooth larry...:)

Well, congrats to anyone who broke 39.5 in a 'Cuda on the oval...I never got that sorted out. And it was all I had time for since I only had to turn one way.

This one is in the books. Let's see what other mischief I can get us into...

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Re: The Missing Muscle, Inc. Much Maligned Mopar Motegi Match--CLOSED
« Reply #80 on: August 18, 2008, 10:58:15 AM »
can anyone do a little final clean-up on the leaderboard for this one?

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Re: The Missing Muscle, Inc. Much Maligned Mopar Motegi Match
« Reply #81 on: August 18, 2008, 11:31:34 AM »
Maybe we should start calling him smooth larry...:)


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Didn't he have a video in the 80s?  Larry Suave  ;D  My style is more along the lines of slow reactions and then quick over corrections.
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Re: The Missing Muscle, Inc. Much Maligned Mopar Motegi Match--CLOSED
« Reply #82 on: August 18, 2008, 12:50:26 PM »
can anyone do a little final clean-up on the leaderboard for this one?


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Re: The Missing Muscle, Inc. Much Maligned Mopar Motegi Match
« Reply #83 on: August 18, 2008, 04:45:10 PM »
Maybe we should start calling him smooth larry...:)
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Didn't he have a video in the 80s?  Larry Suave  ;D  My style is more along the lines of slow reactions and then quick over corrections.

I believe you're thinking of Leisure Suit Larry. Definitely not me.

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Re: The Missing Muscle, Inc. Much Maligned Mopar Motegi Match--CLOSED
« Reply #84 on: August 18, 2008, 06:10:34 PM »
can anyone do a little final clean-up on the leaderboard for this one?


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