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Re: ALS/500 Challenge: Ultimate Pony Car
« Reply #90 on: July 24, 2008, 08:09:00 PM »
It's auto trans and it's hitting 505.9 at about 5200 rpm.

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Re: ALS/500 Challenge: Ultimate Pony Car
« Reply #91 on: July 25, 2008, 08:46:44 AM »
I've probably done more tuning with these cars than with any others that i've built out, if that is because i feel more confident now about changing things and seeing what effect it has or just because of information i've picked up over my time here at M-inc im not sure, maybe a combination of both...

Im not sure what it is about the specs but these cars do take a lot of tuning to get right and a good build is needed to get the most out of the engines, being limited to 500bhp gives a lot of variation, I think the multitude of builds on my Camaro SS gave anywhere between 450 and 600 lb-ft of torque for around the same bhp...

Also as I said in another post I even tried out a couple of cars that weren't in the official challange but I just wanted to try out at these specs and see what they were like, The Cuda, as it has full aero available and the Trans Am.. as its called a Trans Am and we are recreating Trans Am racing.. lol
(Although aparently it never actually raced in the Trans Am series itself... lol)
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Re: ALS/500 Challenge: Ultimate Pony Car
« Reply #92 on: July 25, 2008, 12:24:02 PM »
Sure Dirt. I'll do the LB. I've got a template that just needs to be tweeked for each challenge. That's where this one came from. I'll just have a late time to do the updates.

As far as the cars are I didn't log the times, but here are the best from memory. I am disappointed in the Shelby. It's been my go to car in two of the other M Inc. classes (C and B class) But its lack of tire width and the weight limit stop it from being "the One". Best time so far was a 88.4. It really thrives with a lightweight build and virtually stock power.

I told myself I wasn't going to build any of the Bowties, but I did, a Z. And the best lap so far has been an 88.0. That's pretty close (one tenth) to the Boss despite narrow tires, smaller torque and accel value. For some reason, it handles better despite having the exact same tune as the Boss.........
Or it may be the driver getting more laps........ Or the lack of tire smoking torque.........Or.

The 428CJ in the Shelby was widely know to be rated well under the real power output. Back in the '70's, it was the dominant engine in NHRA Stock and Super Stock sportsman classes. So much so that the NHRA upped the rated power to 400HP instead of the advertised 335. The 454 in the Chevelle had the same treatment as the quoted HP was from 500-1000 RPM lower than the actual peak. It was rated at 450HP, reality was 500HP. Maybe the devs threw that in the game also.
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Re: ALS/500 Challenge: Ultimate Pony Car
« Reply #93 on: July 25, 2008, 07:27:51 PM »
Great, Drift...You will have some help from another member, as well. I will make both of you mods. You can click the modify button and edit the leaderboard posts.

I can't tell you how helpful this will be.

Thanks again, Larry and Drift.

DD
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Re: ALS/500 Challenge: Ultimate Pony Car
« Reply #94 on: July 26, 2008, 04:00:15 AM »
Drift - if you're ready to update the leaderboard on this one go ahead. Otherwise I'll try to get it done and posted later today.

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Re: ALS/500 Challenge: Ultimate Pony Car
« Reply #95 on: July 26, 2008, 04:48:45 AM »
Dear God, Larry! You're awake and online this early? Gasp!!

I got a couple of times to chase down before you update...let me see if I can find them on the old box...

Z/28: 88.570
Boss: 88.732


hehe

DD
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Re: ALS/500 Challenge: Ultimate Pony Car
« Reply #96 on: July 26, 2008, 04:55:21 AM »
Dear God, Larry! You're awake and online this early? Gasp!!

I got a couple of times to chase down before you update...let me see if I can find them on the old box...

hehe

DD

Too late, but not too late. Post away and I'll update again.

The leaderboard is current to this point

If anyone sees any errors or omissions let me know and I'll fix.

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Re: ALS/500 Challenge: Ultimate Pony Car
« Reply #97 on: July 26, 2008, 04:57:30 AM »
Damn, early and fast...it's not even 5 am yet!

Thanks, Larry...it did pose any problems editing, I hope.

btw, it ain't just us, Larry...Pete is online, too, although I think it might be mid-morning for him

DD
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Re: ALS/500 Challenge: Ultimate Pony Car
« Reply #98 on: July 26, 2008, 05:10:35 AM »
Well, this has been what we folks in the backwater country call a real hoot. (I don't know why we call it that...has something to do with empty jugs of moonshine liquor, I reckon.)

Here's my take on things:

1. Handling wins. Seems like most folks found their speed in suspension settings. I like that.

2. The ALS/500 specs work pretty good on the pony cars, lots more speed than you can use on most tracks and winning is done in the corners as it should be.

3. The races in the braking zone remind me of a bunch of grizzly bears fighting for the same salmon. It's just too much fun.

4. What I think I like best, though, is that these seem to be racing machines and not hotlapping machines. They are at their best in a pack, enough power to actually race the next guy and enough agility to keep out of trouble if you think ahead.

Thanks to all who had a chance to run them...especially for the online races...I think they belong online.

BTW, New Challenge will start TODAY!!!

DD

Ron's Big Mouth Adventure: epilogue

Parking area for the haulers...


DD: Look at this idiot pulling that rig right up in front of us. Dammit all, you jack--oh, Mike. You need help loading up or something?

Mike: Naw, I thought you might. We gotta get this shelby on your truck

DD: Mike, why do you want that on my truck? We ain't headed to St. Louis

Carol: Hey, Dirt! Make room for this one, too.

DD: What the hell? Trixie!

Betsy: Now, calm yourself, boss, or I will have to break out some of that tea.

By this time a small crowd had gathered of Muscle, Inc. drivers and owners...

Trixie: Well, Dirt...Happy Birthday.

Skunk: We sorta dreamed up this little event for you. Got Mike and Carol and some others to join in.

Bert: Don't look at me like that, Dirt..I didn't know a thing about it.

Betsy: Yeah, we knew he would blow it so...

Carol: So they kept it a secret and goaded Bert into a race...haha

Mike: And we know you are still low on muscle cars so everybody pooled some resources and we are stocking you back up

Trixie: Look around, Dirt...Bowties, Blue Ovals...and some of the guys brought a mopar or two...

Carol: Yep...now we expect to see the OldSchool Speedshop back in full operation! No excuses.

DD: Well, I ain't got a speech or anything...I thank you from my heart...but there is just one thing...

Skunk: What's that, boss?

Bert: Hehe...It ain't his birthday!!!

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