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Hoplee

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ALS Throw-Down!
« on: September 18, 2007, 11:31:27 AM »
I wanted to post some quick suggestions for those of you wishing to run the foreign trash against the american trash in the current challenge.

My Standard A Class FCT Upgrade Package

Handling Upgrades
Yokohama Racing Slicks
Max Width Upgrade
Sport Weight Reduction (Race WR is usually too stiff of a PI penalty for what you get)
Race Handling & Platform
FORZA Aero Pieces (unless the only ones available are useless, see Lancia STRATOS)

Engine Upgrades
Sport Cams
No boost/ stock boost
'Race level' everything else that will fit under PI restriction, starting with exhaust, intake and block
if you're still under PI after building everything but boost, go for Race Cams


Obviously the engine build will vary from car to car, but the basic principles have proven themselves. I have had better lap times with a fully built engine than I have had with a fully boosted engine. If a fully built engine isn't working or powerful enough, and an engine swap isn't practical or available, that's when I start looking at forced induction. When I must boost, I prefer a turbo.

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Re: ALS Throw-Down!
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2007, 11:36:03 AM »
A further note for those of who who will be piloting the Carrera.

It jumps off the line like a frog out of a frying pan! Makes you want to say 'dayuuuummmmm!"

[EDIT] Try the default settings on the 911 before you change anything. I had to fight the temptation to do some 'pre-tuning' based upon my experiences with this car in B-Class. Interestingly, I was pleasantly surprised by its default behavior in A-Class.
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Re: ALS Throw-Down!
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2007, 11:41:42 AM »
A further note for those of you that will be piloting the Dino. The setup posted by Blooze is EXTREMELY stable. It will probably handle another hundred horses from moving up to A Class without breaking a sweat.
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Re: ALS Throw-Down!
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2007, 11:46:24 AM »
A further note for those of you that will be piloting the 2000GT. I tend to run this one with a full race weight reduction. It doesn't take much power for this thing to have a good top end and as a bonus it has one of the lowest initial PI ratings of any car in the game, leaving plenty of room for the go-fast parts. If you build it all the way out, it will go faster than a Charger on the Speedway (top speed rating 247.2) if that gives you any idea of what kind of car you're dealing with.
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Re: ALS Throw-Down!
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2007, 11:47:19 AM »
A further note for those of you that will be piloting the E-Type.

GOOD LUCK! ::)
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Re: ALS Throw-Down!
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2007, 04:28:11 PM »
Looks like I might need to look at losing a bit of power to get those slicks on the 911, at the moment I'm in running with full engine upgrades (except the engine swap), all handling upgrades except no weight reduction, BFG DOT's with 3rd narrowest tyres and Forza rear bumper (not front spoiler). There is a distinct possibility the driver could do with an upgrade as well  :D.

For comparison, on the best lap I apexed the 3rd turn of Becketts at 79mph and hit 154mph at the end of the Hangar Straight. I'm just wondering what you guys with the Slicks are getting?
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Re: ALS Throw-Down!
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2007, 05:31:11 PM »
ive been playing with etype (what else!) - i just cant put a good jag down :)

unfortunatey cant get anywhere close at the moment, im at 1:59s , so somehow got to loose 7 seconds!
good news is, my lines are still all over the place.

spec of her is: 2139lb 398hp, 329tq  - race weight, running yoko slicks, only got he rear wing on,
which im gonna try to start easing the downforce off a bit, running full 150 at the mo.


ive been practicing on 500hp race, and its nice at least to see the Jag winning, and beating all the ferraris.

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Re: ALS Throw-Down!
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2007, 07:39:27 AM »
The fastest one so far is a 399hp Dino on Slicks. The Blooze setup handles the extra hp nicely. I haven't tried the bazdc2 setup yet, but I suspect it will do just fine.
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Re: ALS Throw-Down!
« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2007, 07:44:46 AM »
I would post here but, after that Ferrari v. McClaren fiasco in F1 I am afraid of being accused of espionage!

Thanks for taking up the challenge, FCT!

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Re: ALS Throw-Down!
« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2007, 08:43:09 AM »
I am prolly gonna try a Porsche here...

Or a Gullwing with the 5.4L V8 swap...
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Re: ALS Throw-Down!
« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2007, 09:36:26 AM »
Etype - k, got it down to 1.58.008, same setup as yesterday (or close anyways) - i think ive got at least another .5 sec perhaps more to come, but really wanted to make 55!

in case anyone wants to try here are a few combos ive tried
(i) Full Race inc WR, yokos, full width, rear wing only, race engine parts (no turbo) except street ign
(ii) as (i) but without rear wing, boost speed stat to 5.5
(iii) engine swap, then combo of engine parts to get to 399, the all race parts except sport WR - comes out with around 400torque, and about 150lb heavier than (i) - oh and you can only get it to 840 PI and run out of options :)


for me (i) and (iii) are similar but i found (i) more stable to drive

i can run (ii) BUT i find you have to be so careful on the throttle on corner exit, and careful on the high speed corners - so overall was actually slower... but if you run in (ii) for a few laps, it makes me alot faster in (i)  :)

probably a couple of things to bare in mind,
1) im not that good :)   someone who races alot of muscle probably will have alot better throttle control
2) i run without any assists, and with the wheel - im sure if i turned on TCS, and possibly STM - then that would make running without a wing feasible.
those are my excuses, and im sticking to them !

btw, are we running 399 or 400? ALS said you had to get into 400HP comp, but that is under 400 according to the text, and i can never get in with 400.


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Re: ALS Throw-Down!
« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2007, 09:53:58 AM »
FM2 doesn't show fractions in all screens. 400.6 hp may bump you out because of rounding or it may be more strict than that. 400.1 may even be enough to bump you out. 399 is safe no matter what.
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Re: ALS Throw-Down!
« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2007, 04:14:34 PM »
Let me clarify the 400 hp spec.

The maximum hp for the cars is 400 hp. That's fine for offline challenges.

The problem is that sometimes what shows 400 hp won't be allowed into a multiplayer room with the 300-400hp restriction set. So, Blooze said test it in the 400 hp semi-pro event. It is only an issue with online races, not the challenges.

As far as challenges go, just set her up with as much HP as you like, as long as it doesn't go over 400 hp on your little ratings list.

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Re: ALS Throw-Down!
« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2007, 12:35:25 PM »
Alright Hop, that 2000GT of mine has me wonderin about these old birds.  I was doing some cleaning around the shop makin room for the usual Christmas clutter and I came across a couple FCT candidates.

The Foriegn Lot
Dino-Stock
250GTO-Stock
Mercedes Gullwing-Stock (some surface rust)
914/6-Stock
Both Nissan's-One D400 from the AH an the R version is Stock

Now what to do with them? ? ?  I see you have a couple of versions in the A and B class range but I have a large gaping hole in my C-class.  I know I want a 914 and a Dino in D.  Any luck with the rest in C-class or higher?
Go sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here.

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Re: ALS Throw-Down!
« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2007, 02:22:45 PM »
The Gullwing hasn't been competitive for me in any class.

The 250 GTO has been impressive on paper, just not impressive enough. Lately I've been building missiles out of them.

The Dino and the 914/6 are very similar cars. I've even used VERY similar setups on them with some measure of success. They're competitive in most rooms from D to A. I haven't seen a good enough one in S-Class yet. How you build them depends a lot on what track you're building them for.

The Nissans/Datsuns are good cars. They're the only FCT eligible cars with an AWD swap available and that alone is enough reason to keep one around. For some reason they don't suit my driving style out of the box and I haven't spent as much time on mine as the other FCTs, but I've seen enough of them to know that they're at least as competitive as the Dino and 914. Seems like I was racing an A-Class one with AWD in my Trans-Am last night. IIRC, he was holding his own on Road America of all places.
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