Tiny Terror Shootout: C-class challenge! CLOSED

[fndrbndr]

(It's another laid back Thursday night at the Tiny Terror shop.  Fndr is slapping a paintjob on a street-legal sockmonkey for some kid's graduation present.  Doc comes in and tosses fndr a beer.)

Doc:  Here ya go, man.  You ready for that runoff?

Fndr:  Yeah.  Hey, quick question.

Doc:  Shoot.

Fndr:  I know we're doing pretty well in the limited prep classes.  I've got a '94 miata I'm putting together for spec, too.  Why don't we get into full-prep?  We've got the money, and now that the thesis is done, there's a little free time.  I've been putting in roll cages a while now, and they meet spec.  Your buddy with Goodyear gets us some good deals on slicks.  Why not give it a shot?

Doc:  I'm all for it.  That B-class Toyota of yours is a full-prep as it is.  Your D-class Miata is close, just needs the cage.  Wanna meet in the middle and put something in C?  Seems like these little foreign jobs you like would work pretty well there.

Fndr:  Sounds like a plan.  I've found another 2000GT.  This one's got an engine, so it should fit in C.  Can you look up some specs while i'm finishing up this paint?

Doc:  Sure.  I'll try to find a Club Race spec or something, and we'll go from there.

The Cars:
2000GT
1969 Fairlady
Ferarri Dino GT
Lotus Elan
Mazda Roadster
Porsche 914/6

spec:
C-class, max PI 550
Less than 200 hp
Aside:  This almost necessitates slicks and full WR; in the interest of full disclosure, that's how I built the test mules for this class.  If you want to sacrifice a little width or stickiness for power, though, be my guest, as long as it fits.  Note that the Dino comes a bit shy of 550.  It's pretty strong, so I'm not too worried about it. (Note: Fairlady removed from comment)

The Challenge:
Some of you have already started playing along with this one, but I got the go-ahead to make it official.  If you want your times from the garage try-out project posted in this thread, just post them.  The challenge is to post laptimes on all three of the QR tracks: Sebring Short, Tsukuba, and Road Atlanta Short.  Leaderboard will show aggregate times, so list the three times for each car.  We'll let the magic of excel do the rest.

Timeline:  Looking to wrap this one up around the 25th to make way for the Muscle, Inc. official challenge.

[Spiny Anteater]

It's Thursday? Hooray - one less day at work than I thought

[fndrbndr]

It's Thursday? Hooray - one less day at work than I thought

No, but it's not night here either.  Over here, Thursday nights are kind of party nights in college towns.  Also, most races take place on the weekend, so it seemed appropriate.  And I'm glad it's not Thursday yet; I've got to change a figure in my thesis before the upload, the deadline for which is Friday.

[TheJohnNewton]

There's a rumor going round these parts that Honest John's Used Cars will be offering these tiny terror models at 100% off to anyone sending an xbox live message to their top xbox live salesmen, Qmole.  Rumor is they will be checking their live account Thursday and/or Friday morning.

[fndrbndr]

I'm already good on these (obviously), but I'll pass that rumor along.  Thanks for boosting participation.  Also, thanks for the car the other day.  Guess I have to run R2 now....

[fndrbndr]

Driver	Car	ATL II	SEB II	Tsukuba	Total
Serial	914/6	60.443	79.304	59.167	198.914
Drift2XL	914/6	60.454	79.332	59.221	199.007
Ske	Fairlady	60.429	79.448	59.409	199.286
Drift2XL	Miata	60.968	79.851	59.933	200.752
Fndrbndr	Miata	61.612	80.018	59.811	201.441
Fit4aking	Fairlady	61.125	80.476	60.143	201.744
Spiny Anteater	Elan	61.608	80.469	59.786	201.863
Bimmerlovere39	Dino	60.773	80.821	60.545	202.139
Spiny Anteater	Elan	61.527	80.696	60.315	202.538
Feuerdog	914/6	61.263	80.683	60.831	202.777
Fndrbndr	Fairlady	62.191	80.996	60.067	203.254
Fndrbndr	914/6	62.123	80.791	60.528	203.442
Fndrbndr	Dino	62.051	80.768	60.654	203.473
Bimmerlovere39	Miata	61.960	80.922	60.789	203.671
Fndrbndr	Elan	62.704	81.178	59.952	203.834
Fndrbndr	2000GT	62.004	81.397	60.791	204.192
BackfireNL	Fairlady	62.639	82.189	60.476	205.304
BackfireNL	2000GT	62.677	82.139	61.631	206.447
Org63	Dino	62.268	82.681	61.688	206.637
Org63	Miata	62.095	83.244	61.794	207.133

[Drift2XL]

These times were done during the shakedown phase of the TT Shootout.

MSR (MazdaSpeed Roadster)
 61.155 RAS
 80.556 Seb
 60.335 Tsu
202.146

A different build than most of the others. Basic specs are outlined in the TT thread in Fndr's garage.

This baby will wear out your neck in a hurry. The grip is unbelievable.

Off to try to see what the Nissan can do. I wish we had a Datsun 510 to play with. That would be perfect for this group.

[fndrbndr]

Nice.  And to whoever edited my post and gave me the how-to for the scoreboard, thanks.  (My guess is Dirt or Blooze)

Scoreboard is current to this point.

[Fit4aking]

Spanky's Speedshop Official Entry - Fairlady Z

So I went for the underdog, I just had to.  I was able to get a perfect C550, with exactly 200hp.  I even ran the Suzuka East race in the Semi-Pro Series.  Finished first by the way.

I din't have a ton of time so I decided to run only 4 laps on each track in each step of the build process.  Only 4!  Then change something and run them all over again.  That helps me keep from tuning for one track.

So Stock this terd is only D181 and I thought it was a very good car for such a low PI, slow as sin but not heinus handling.
Here's how it panned out:

Fairlady
Stock D181
Sebring - 93.243
Tsukuba - 68.580
RdAtlSh - 70.162

Then I went about building this beast, I heard a rumor that it was shy of 550 so I set out to find that magic combo of parts to get it right.  Turns out it is possible and I'll post the build closer to the closing of the challenge, but I know it'll be found out anyway.  I suspect several variations are possible.  So I re-ran all 3 tracks again for 4 laps, with a Blooze 54.5% tune and stock SWR (64.47%)  Very soft.

C550 Blooze Tune (it is possible)
Sebring - 82.162
Tsukuba - 60.802
RdAtlSh - 61.650

I still had about 15 minutes to try and tune it some more so I watched some telemetry, adjusted the alignment and increased the SWR 5%, to 70% actually, so a bit more than 5%.  No wholesale changes but slightly better.  There is a bit more time in this car and as I drive it more I'll find it.  Hope the real world loosens its grip so I can have some play time but at least I get to chime in on this one.  So this is my final entry for the night.  After only 12 laps on each track in this car I think I made a pretty big dent in the stigma that was associated with this slug.  I even had a few minutes to put a decent paint scheme on it.  I'll post that later with the build.

C550 +5% SWR
Sebring - 81.477
Tsukuba - 60.487
RdAtlSh - 61.125

Total - 203.089

Now to hunt down that miata before Serial, Drift or Ske chime in and run away with it.  Number one is number one even if your the only entrant!

Edit - Seems Drift was typing at the same time, dangit.

[fndrbndr]

You know, the Miata is good, the the one that's impressed me thus far is the Dino.  The Elan had a better QR than the miata, but it's got NO top speed, to the point that it's a factor on Tsukuba.  I'm probably going to spend some more time with the Dino.  I'll also go back and take another look at the Fairlady.  Maybe I got something wrong in my notes.

Now to hunt down that miata before Serial, Drift or Ske chime in and run away with it.  Number one is number one even if your the only entrant!

And this is why I always try to post a time quickly in these challenges...lol

Thanks for running this.  It seems my build was from an old spec.  Good on you for the time.

Leaderboard is current to this point.

[Ske]

69 Fairlady

seb   79.448
atl    60.429
tsu   59.409
QR  199.286

I had no problems getting this car to 550 personally.. not sure if I might have done something wrong though.. here's the build:

Race exhaust
Street ignition
Sport fuel
Race handling, stock brakes
225/40R17 Yokohama slicks
Borbet Design BS wheels
Full aero package

199HP
161lbft
2038lbs

[fndrbndr]

No, I'm thinking I still had mine to an old spec that required under 2k lbs.  I messed around with several other versions of this spec, and it seems I left the Fairlady in that one.  I've edited the first post to remove that comment.

Leaderboard is current to this point.

[fndrbndr]

Doc:  Well, seems some of the other guys woke up the Z just fine.

Fndr:  Yeah.  Seems like a lot of ricers out there right now, though.

Doc:  Yeah, and I'm sure you just HATE that.

Fndr:  Eh, it's what happens when you throw out a comment about a certain car and its ability to compete.  Everyone loves a challenge.

Doc:  Seems they passed.  Someone just got under 200 seconds.

Fndr:  Sweetness.  So what's next?

Doc:  Keep going, man.  You've got all these cars, but I know you didn't do more than 10 laps in any of 'em.  If we're paying Zeke to keep hauling these cars all over the place, we might as well run 'em.  I'll make a few calls to get some parts for the Z, then maybe we'll break out a couple of the euros.

(Yeah, I'm going to revisit the Z.  Once it's up to speed, which should be pretty quickly, I'll try to improve some of the European cars' times.  Thanks to Fit and Ske for running the Z and catching my mistake.)

[fndrbndr]

Doc:  Well, that seemed to work out pretty well.

Fndr:  Yeah, it felt a lot better on the track.  There's still some time out there, maybe with some stiffer springs. 

Doc:  Just figured up the total, and that took the car from worst to first, at least among your runs.

Fndr:  Yup.  Now to pick up the Porsche.  Detrick built it, so I know it's fast.

Fairlady
Atl 62.191
Seb 80.996
Tsuk 60.067
Total 203.254

Leaderboard current to this point.

[DirtDriver]

Just want to say how good it is to see a "Tiny Terror" challenge!!! Good on ya, Nick.

DD