New School Muscle Cars....

[Moosejaw]

I might have an idea for a future MI challenge, but I need to know what you guys think.

What cars in the game do you consider to be new school muscle cars?

My list so far:

2005 Ford Mustang GT
2002 Chevrolet Camaro SS
2004 Pontiac GTO
2000 Saleen S281
2004 Cadillac CTS-V
2006 Dodge Charger SRT8
2007 Shelby GT500
2000 Ford Mustang Cobra R
2006 Chevrolet Corvette Z06
1999 Dodge Viper GTS ACR
2003 Dodge Viper SRT10

Do you agree?

[DirtDriver]

Moose, Blooze and I have the car lists locked in. We are not making any new lists. It's just an administrative thing. Once before we tried to modify Muscle, Inc. to accomodate other interests and the thing fell apart. So, this time we decided that Muscle, Inc. is simply our project. It's the only way we know to keep the integrity of the original concept.

So the car lists are set.

We don't change them.

I appreciate the suggestion. Check out the car list for the ALS cars. I set that one up so we can take a look at these cars. As I said somewhere else, I am willing to experiment in ALS.

DD

[Fit4aking]

I've spent a lot of time in my CTS-V and its the only car I can get around Laguna Seca even close to a friend of mine that routinely dissapears around most tracks.  Its tuned to A-class but it has over 400hp so it doesn't fit the ALS series either.   I considered buying a standard Mustang the other day but I've been trying to get cars together for the Muscle Inc and ALS series.  I really like my Camaro SS but again over 400hp.  I've got to re-evaluate most of my modern car builds and eventually I'll get to it but my Charger is taking up most fo my time. 

Moosejaw: I agree with your list being agood representation of modern muscle cars availabel in FM2 but this is DD & Blooze' house and their rules.  Usually they open up online rooms to race anything after we run challenge courses and that is the time to wipe them up with your other cars.  No harm in psoting a fast time in any car and if I can make an ALS car as fast as my CTS I'll post a comparative time.

[Moosejaw]

DD,

Cool. It's your house your rules.

I just thought an Old School v New School challenge might be a good idea.

[DirtDriver]

Thanks for understanding, MooseJaw.

Like I said, though, I am willing to experiment with different cars in the American Legends Series. That one is not Muscle, Inc. per se. It originated in the OldSchool Speedshop and I created it so we could take a look at the very type of thing you are proposing.

DD

[Silent Flower]

the list lacks Panoz! isen't Panoz an american car?

[Ske]

For what it's worth (reference etc), I'd consider the Vauxhall/Holden Monaro a Muscle Car... it's not American though.

[DirtDriver]

In the American Legends Series I picked cars that had some kind of provenance or legacy, even if in name only. The Monaro appears in the form of the GTO. The Panoz was just not on the list because, unlike the GTO, it does not have the historical place in muscle car culture. Of course, one could (and has) question the inclusion of the Series 1 for the same reason. But, it's a Shelby.

In the end, the list had to be pruned somehow. The 400 hp limit was to keep the legendary cars in the same group. Some got left out but there is a pretty good list.

Just remember, we are not forming a new or modern muscle car group. We have found we need to keep the concept pretty tight.

DD

[Blooze]

I think I will throw in on this as well, just in case there was the slightest chance of mis-communication.

The posts that are showing up in here are not new - perhaps a new car here and there, but we have seen 'em before.  We have the experience, and have had it.  We won't have it again.  Muscle Inc is as it is and it will not change.

ALS is an experiment.  But we have found that sort of thing is best developed by one person, two at the most.  Design by committee breaks down in Forza as well as it does anywhere else.  Dirt is setting up ALS, and that is pretty much the end of that discussion as well.

HopLee has his furine car thang goin' - Dirt and I have no part in it's organization.

Dirt and I have found that this is the only way to manage something like MInc.

And, this thread makes me twitchy - it was a simple little thread like this that brought MInc down, both times.

If there is something about this that you can't hack, I'm sorry.  I wish you well.

The Blooze Man

[DirtDriver]

OK, I guess that covers the topic sufficiently. I am locking it.

DD