April Muscle Inc.: C Builder Challenge - Closed

[Blooze]

I thought we'd get a jump on this one, partly cause we are challenge-less at the moment, and partly, because if this goes right, everybody will be building a half dozen cars or so... maybe, sort of - so the extra time will be handy.

This is a proposal for the Muscle Inc.C Class spec.
 

• Class C - 550 PI Max
• Y Rated tires with a minimum width of 215 mm. (The GTO is allowed to run 205 mm)
• All adjustable Platform/Handling parts are required.
• Rear Wing is required.

Both of the Corvettes and the Chevelle are excluded from this for the time being.
Edits:

• It appears the GTO has issues with the spec, so it is off the list for the time being as well.
• The Charger is included, but with a jaundiced eye...

The tracks are the first three tracks of the C Class Professional Series (Tsukuba, Mugello II, and Silverstone GP).   These races pay 26000+ per pop so expenses associated with multilple builds will be defrayed some what.

The goal is to determine if the Muscle Cars built to this specification are competitive within the group, as well as in C class over all.

At this time I have 4 of 'em built, 3 are QR'd and the BucksToon Account C Class leaderboard is made up of cars built to this specification, and is currently ranked at 357 overall.   With everybody's various tuning regimines and build tendencies we should be able to get a pretty good burn on this.

Leaderboard:

Driver	Car	QR	Tsukuba	Mugellow	SS GP	Total
Serial	Camaro Z28	--	495.834	447.582	499.997	1443.413
Drift2XL	Charger	--	497.128	447.137	500.581	1444.846
Drift2XL	GT500KR	--	495.829	448.628	503.510	1447.967
BucksToon	GT500KR	202.452	496.996	449.545	503.922	1450.463
Drift2XL	Boss 429	--	497.354	449.107	504.113	1450.574
Spiny Anteater	GT500KR	--	498.499	451.344	501.629	1451.472
Jonc30	Camaro Z28	--	497.320	449.307	506.080	1452.707
Spiny Anteater	Challenger	--	498.954	451.015	503.276	1453.245
BucksToon	Charger	202.240	499.341	450.625	504.188	1454.154
Jonc30	GT500KR	--	498.559	448.387	508.084	1455.030
Feuerdog	SS Camaro	--	500.116	452.521	502.690	1455.327
Feuerdog	Boss 429	--	500.604	450.566	504.291	1455.461
Drift2XL	Baracuda	--	498.828	452.108	505.659	1456.595
Drift2XL	SS Camaro	--	497.594	453.660	505.359	1456.613
Drift2XL	Camaro Z28	--	500.211	451.575	505.658	1457.444
BucksToon	GTO	202.195	499.779	452.101	505.646	1457.526
BucksToon	Camaro Z28	202.367	499.688	451.596	509.493	1460.777
BucksToon	SS Camaro	202.939	499.921	452.862	508.143	1460.926
TheJohnNewton	Charger	--	502.950	451.796	508.314	1463.060
BucksToon	Challenger	203.317	500.024	453.109	510.609	1463.742
GS Shyner	Baracuda	205.231	501.090	454.956	509.707	1465.753
BucksToon	Boss 429	202.383	502.075	455.531	510.851	1468.457
BucksToon	Trans Am	203.714	501.910	456.651	511.354	1469.915
BucksToon	Baracuda	204.702	500.474	455.096	515.134	1470.704
FndrBndr	Trans Am	--	506.476	457.427	511.358	1475.261
BimmerLovere39	Camaro Z28	--	508.508	454.399	515.958	1478.865
FndrBndr	Boss 429	--	510.441	456.440	512.693	1479.574
FndrBndr	Charger	--	510.219	457.060	513.393	1480.672
backfireNL	Camaro Z28	206.987	507.563	464.977	518.105	1490.645
PureStanKonia	GT500KR	--	510.929	464.151	522.260	1497.340
PureStanKonia	Camaro Z28	--	512.022	465.171	525.960	1503.153

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[Blooze]

So far I'd have to say that this is like D Class with Traction.  The Shelby was the first one and I probably owe it another run.  I haven't been doing too much tweakage - I'll save that for when I have them all built and have established a pissing order of sorts. 

The Challenger is a surprise for me, that tractor sounding engine just doesn't sound like it's getting it done, until you come up on a corner and find out you're going a lot faster than ya thunk... 

I also need to rethink the way I built the Z28, it came out much weaker than I thought it should.

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[JuanOfMany]

I'm blanking out here... Y-rated= sport or street?

[Blooze]

Read the text blurb that accompanies the tires (you may have to hit Y to get it to show.)  None the less...

• Street = Y Rated
• Sport = DOT
• Race = Slicks

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[TheJohnNewton]

I can run my Charger    oh goody!  Tsukuba should be a hoot.

[Drift2XL]

Fun with heavy cars.

I've just gotten through with sub-2000lb, slick equipped tiny terrors.

But at least I've got the set up down.

[fndrbndr]

You and me both, Drift!  Here's my first effort, though I'm hoping to improve upon it later.

Charger
Tsukuba 510.219
Mugellow 457.060
Silverstone 513.393
Total 1480.672

You've got me beat, Blooze, but it's fun to drive!

Edit:  And now to watch Setup   

[gs shyner]

Couldn't help it as I'm kinda feeling good.

If Italian race drivers are just chillin, one could say (and fndr did in a way), "they're totally Mugellow!"

Fndr coined a new race word!  LOL

[Drift2XL]

I had an extra Z-28 sitting around that didn't have a purpose. So I put it in C Class.

Z-28
  491.836 Tsu
  455.092 Mug
  513.920 Sil
1460.848

I have made Class label tags for my muscle cars.

I'm going to use the class color for the background.
Next is S^4 purple and then B class green.

I also got a couple new vintange paints up in my design shop. Just a preview of what's coming next.

[Blooze]

Fun with heavy cars.

I've just gotten through with sub-2000lb, slick equipped tiny terrors.

But at least I've got the set up down.

LOL - I can relate...  When I decided to go ahead and work on the C Muscle Inc. Stable I was in the middle of tuning and running R1 cars and experimenting with their DF settings.  What a come down!  My first few laps with the GT-500 were a disaster.  It wouldn't go, it wouldn't turn, and it wouldn't stop.  I had to run quite a few laps in the snakes to get used to the thing.  That is the reason why I owe it another pass at the timed tracks.

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Heavens!  My reign at the top of the leaderboard was certainly short lived.  You really handed me my lunch on Tsukuba!!  And with a Z28 to boot!  Good time!

I fear I erred big time when I built my Z28, opting for the Race level cam which bumped up the Hp and peak RPMs pretty good but the Hp/Torque ratio suffered severly, dropping from 1.000 to .883.   Tell me, did you build your engine for torque?

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The color scheme is a good idea!  I use a similar tactic in the BucksToon garage (it currently has 45 Muscle cars ranging from Stock to S in it).  Cars that don't have custom paints are Purpleish, Blueish, Greenish, Yellowish and Orangish.  One thing that is fortunate is that there is a definite PI division to the cars.  If they are not stock, then they are one of the Class PI values.   I am glad I got them all moved to the BucksToon account though.  It would be a mess if they were still in the main Blooze46 profile.

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Just for giggles and because it is the sort of crazy-assed crap I do, I started tracking the financials on my C Class Muscle Inc Stable.  Now I have all sorts of interesting little factoids...

• The Stable consists of 5 cars that have a combined value of 418000 Cr.
• The actual cost of the 5 cars is 227000 Cr.
• Of that amount, 134500 is for parts.
• Sell off value of the 5 cars is 183600 Cr.  You can see that I would loose my shirt if I sold those cars.
• 4 of the cars are leveled off to 5, the Chevelle being the drag on the community.
• I have won a combined 910704 Cr. with the cars...
• ...and have driven them a total of 495.91 miles.

As you can see, I am in need of some sort of intervention, I am afraid... 

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[Drift2XL]

I'm a tiny bit familiar with Tsukuba. And I had some pratice just beforehand today with fndr's TT cars.

I got a couple of laps down into the 61's. Not bad for a car that's 2900 lbs with Y-rated tires. I was down into the low 60's with the TT cars.

I built grip first so I maxxed out WR. A slight oversize in width also. Its only pushing 314 HP. Hence the beatings on the other tracks. But for what its got on it, it's all torque.

I got a Shelby that's close to the same way. 3100 lbs and stock power and tire width. I'm interested in seeing what it will do.
Then there's the vintage cars coming after that. (shameless plug for paint shop) Big and heavy those two are.

But I'm going to "only" use those four cars. After prelims, it time to tighten down the loose nut and learn these tracks as well as I know Tsukuba and Rd Atl Short.

[fndrbndr]

Couldn't help it as I'm kinda feeling good.

If Italian race drivers are just chillin, one could say (and fndr did in a way), "they're totally Mugellow!"

Fndr coined a new race word!  LOL

LOL!  This is what I get for trying to type anything after a thesis defense...hehe.   

[TheJohnNewton]

Rats, rats, rats, *&#^#@((*#&&#

I went off the track near the end of the last lap on the last race for a 5 second penalty!!!  $*#&$#&*

I didn't realize this was one of those series races where you can't just go back and re-run.  Bummer man.

Charger
Tsukuba 504.848
Mugellow 453.818
Silverstone 512.993
Total 1471.659

Siverstone should be this cars best track but drat I can't go back and run it easily so this will have to do.

I was sooooo close to breaking 62 on Tsukuba.  I think I ran two 62.048.

[Blooze]

You can restart Tsukuba as many times as you want without it costing you anything.

I hate screwin' up near the end of a race.  I think that is one reason I never do any good on the 'Ring...  I get on defensive mode past the half way point.

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I made a slot in the leaderboard for the QR if you have it. 

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[TheJohnNewton]

Alas the first two races I ran decently with no penalty.  To re-run the one I really messed up on I'd have to go all the way back throught those two just to get to the last one.  No time for that as I need to get to work    Did I mention *#(#&(###(*$((#  lol.