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February Muscle Inc Challenge. Back to your Roots! CLOSED!
« on: January 31, 2008, 09:48:01 PM »
Thursday Afternoon.  Spanky's is buzzing with work, pretty quiet day.  What else would you expect on a Thursday.  A familiar pickup pulls into the showroom parking lot and local leadfoot Chester Montgomery steps out and heads inside.

Chester: Mornin darlin!  You sure are a pretty thing.  Lets you an me head on over to the Double T and grab a nice quiet lunch.

Chester leans over the counter at Ms Lynette's desk and pushes his hat up.  Givin a little wink, its clear someone has caught his eye.

Ms Lynette: Why Chester Montgomery, you still have all that high school charm you'd a had if you were there.

Spanky detects the tone of the conversation and shuffles out of the office, eyein up the youngster at his desk.

Chester: That's Chet.  Now don't go flatterin yerself, Kitty!

Spanky: Can I help you.  Step in my office and I'll see if we can cure what ails you.

Chester: Word on the track is you guys have some hot cars and I've seen the time slips, pretty impressive.  Your driver though, I think he forgot where he came from.  Well where he shoulda come from if he hadn't bought his way into a race car.  Seems you guys bought yer way into all kinds of things.  From the looks of it you didn't spend enough.

Spanky sits there and takes it.  Meanwhile, Ms Lynette already put the call in and Fit's headin up from the paint shop.

Spanky: Is there anything you we can do for you Chet, or you just down here stirrin up trouble.  You've been stuck in that ole short track since quarter midgets and there's no need to go blamin us.

Fit comes in the back door stuffing a shop rag in his back pocket.  Wastes no time heading straight into Spanky's office.  Seems Chet's stuck between Spanky and a Fit.  All the comotion woke Johnny up and he's already snuck his way to the front desk.

Fit:  (extending an open hand) Hey Chester, long time no see.  What's it been 10-12 years.  Yeah, 12 years, last time I was runnin the asphault sprints over at the Proving Grounds.  What are you doin these days?

Chet looks down at Fits offering and peers out under the brim of his hat.  Glancing over his shoulder at Spanky standing up behind his desk he puts his hands on his hips, shakes his head and takes a deep breath.

Chester:  I've been runnin every local in this gawd awful town out their rent money once, twice a week.  You'd remember the old crew if you stopped bye and watched a race once in a while.  Ev'ry Friday night, just like years past.  Some of us never stop racin, what are you doin, still runnin against the clock in your autocross sessions?  There's no glory gettin to the top of a leaderboard, an you couldn't handle the traffic anyway.

Fit: Lemme guess you still runnin that beat up Chevelle of yours outta your uncle's garage.  I'm shocked he hasn't made you work on it somewhere else.  That is unless your still livin in this basement.  You come down here to catch-up or you actually lookin to go faster?

Spanky walks over between the two of them and takes a referee stance on the corner of the conference table.

Chester: Tonights the heat races for tomorrows main event.  You think you can still run with us, show up.  Bring your whole pathetic shop.  You'll need them to help pick up all the parts.  If your as hot as you think put it on the track.  7pm, over at the Proving Grounds, here's a map (throws it on the table) seems you forgot how to get there.

Chester walks out, tips his hat and winks at Ms Lynette.  Spanky looks over at Fit as his face and neck starts turning that shade of red.  You know the one, about the same shade Cale Yarborough had on the back stretch of Daytona.

Spanky: Well, no sence talkin you out of goin.  Can't back out when the shop rep is on the line anyway.  That fool proably told half the town this mornin at the Waffle House anyway.  You want me to pack up the Sagaris, Panoz or your CTS-V?  Like to see him run you down in a Chevelle if your runnin one of those.  Heck you could probably take the PT Cruiser out on the short track and really make him look bad.

Fit: Proving Grounds is no place for an A-classer Spanky.  That's an entry level crowd, always has been.  I'm thinkin we pack up the 500KR and head on over early, Tech inspection might not buy the IMSA Sticker, locals you know.

The rest of the day is spent cleanin up the KR.  Fresh tires, tune up, nice coat of wax, and few tweeks of the alignment.  Fit packs the hauler with a cooler, pop-up tent, some folding chairs, and the tool kit.  Nothin special, just a shakedown package.  It seems like his confidence is high and the entire shop is closin up to head over.  Even Johnny Rotten stayed sober enough to get in as crew, and that's sayin somethin for a Thursday night.  They pull up the the front gate, pay entry and set up a pit stall.  No garages here so a small crowd develops to see what the Waffle House posted as the "reunion rundown".  Seems Chet's been busy as his own promoter today.

Track Official: Tech Inspection, there aint none.  You'd have to have a Series Sponsor and a set of rules in place for that.  Csr looks fine to me, can't say it'll stay that way but your in as long as you pay the entry.

Fit: So there's no tire restriction, no power limits, no scales, nothin.  How do you keep the cars competative?

Track Official: Competative, you think we make enough to pay a purse by bein strict.  Its run-what-ya-brung down here.  You think you brought enough? 

Just then Chester pulls in in his Chevelle, sounds like a million bucks but from the look of the Firestone label its on stock rubber, and rallye wheels no less.  A blip of the throttle and its plain to see that horsepower rules the roost in Chesters camp.  But this is a local track, short, no real straights.  Why is Fit becoming a jittery mess?  After running back to the pits he finally finds Spanky.

Fit: Damn-it Spanky.  We been set up.  There's no rules here Spanky.  I've seen slicks, full cages, even an old Pro-Stock motor in some of these cars.  Chet won't even open the hood, just stands there starin at me.  Go get the Vette, just drive it over, this piece of junk's gonna get slaughtered.  Damn-it Spanky, whole towns here and every one's cheatin but us.

Spanky: Look at you with a case of the nerves.  Just run it, stay smooth and let the chips fall.  It won't be that bad.  I'll never make it with the Vette, you got like 20 mins to get ready.  I'm thinkin you hop in the hauler, get focused and make the best of it.  Screw Chet, if he's cheating we'll work it out with the officials after its over.  Now get with it.

Turns out nerves is the one thing Fit hasn't had to overcome in quite some time.  Lining up a hundred thousand dollar Britsh speedster gets him goin but sittin in in the back row of a heat race in front of a home crowd and Fit looks like he want to go hide.  Each and every race the radio traffic gets worse and worse.  The screaming, the cussing, the sound of twisting sheetmetal and the result are the same in every race. Top 5, no better.  Chet gets a clean sweep of each of the 3 qualifiers, as well as the shootout.  Fit is the last one off the track and he has to drive past victory lane just as Chet gets his cardboard check and kisses the trophy girl.  All while giving Fit the finger.  Spanky's crew can hear the party coming their way while packin up and Chet's big mouth rings clear.

Chester: You think your sponsors want to hear about you getting slaughtered at your home track?  I knew you were all hype, right guys.  (the crowd is into it and not on Fits side)  I'm sure the guys over at Panoz should see how their hard earned money is getting spent, payin entry fees on a losing horse and on the Proving Ground.  I coulda beat you back in the Sprint car days but you always bought your trophy's.  The shoes on my foot now and looks like I was the better driver all along.  Best part is you get to come back tomorrow and watch me do it all over again.  Lets go guys, first rounds on me, these losers need some space to pack up.  (Turning back and talking directly to Fit) Money dont' mean nothin here, your cars all that matters.  Yours can't cut it and I can't wait to see the look on your face when I blow past you again.

Fit and Spanky go over every lap of every race using telemetry and it seems they got out powered on every race.  Chet's car was the worst of all.  700hp on stock tires, how could he have won, telemetry shows damn near perfect power delivery, near in-human.  Spanky send the troops home to lick thier wounds but tells Fit to wait around no matter how long it takes.  2 hours later.....

Spanky: Fit, you still here?  Hey Fit!

Fit: Yeah, I'm still here.  Got most of the dents out but she might not be so pretty tomorrow.  I'm real sorry Spanky.  I let my ego ruin the night.  We coulda pulled it out and at least got on the podium but my focus was elsewhere.  Those cars are so fast.  I've never seen that much power on the Proving Grounds before, I can't believe it. 

Spanky: Not to worry.  We didn't know what we were gettin it to.  We were set up.  Then we went and brought a knife to a missle fight.  If you don't want to go back I ain't gonna make you.  No hard feelins, we got a big picture to worry about, no need to get hung up in local politics.  But I do have some news.

Fit: No, I'll go back, take my beating and hope for the best.  If we quit now we could lose big.  Just don't know how many customers are gonna let us fix their cars knowin a Rookie like Chet stuck it to us.  Might as well give me the good news. (sarcasm)

Spanky: Turns out the old Proving Grounds is having a problem bayin its bills and with no Series Sponsor, they let Chet and his antics rule the roost cause the fans like the drama.  If someone were to come along with enough money to save them from forclosure they could re-write the rule book on the Thursday Night Thunder Series. 

Fit: You know anyone lookin to bail out a rowdy, lawless, local track that noone likes to race on.  I don't.  Honestly I just wanna go home and get some sleep.  I'd rather forget about this whole thing once it over with.

Spanky: Well I agree cause your gonna need to be focused for the main.  Call it a night but give this a look over before you go.  (A few minutes goes by)  While you were screamin your head off I ran back tot he shop and did a quick once-over on the D-class Hotlappers you got in the Muscle lot.  Lots of similarities in them, a couple oddities but I think I made the right call.  You just need to have me a 3' by 10' Spanky's Speedshop Superstock Series banner in time to open tech inspection tomorrow.

Seems the old man and the track owner have a bit of history too.  Two old racers used to talkin about the good old days may have just developed a plan to save each other from ruin.  Spanky sponsors the rowdy series and cleans it up, along with the finances.  And the Proving Grounds gets to stay open for another year.  Spanky even had the time to run a list of the updated rules over to the Waffle House.  Poor Chester's not gonna be too happy when he gets his mornin coffee tomorrow.

More to come as the official challenge will be outlined in the following post. (For all those that don't want to read the stories)
« Last Edit: February 08, 2008, 09:08:32 AM by Blooze »
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Re: February Muscle Inc Challenge Coming Soon!
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2008, 09:48:38 PM »
February Challenge:Back to your Roots.

Back in the first few days or weeks of Forza everyone had the opportunity to run the North American Open.  A short 3 race series on the dreaded (not so much) Snakes.  This months opening challenge will be to park your missles.  Rebuild those grip monsters and head back to the beginning.  In a Muscle Inc D-spec car run the North American Open keeping track of your best lap, race and combined race times.  (If you post your individual race times, I think autosum can handle the math).  The leaderboard won't be based on the best individual lap time but on the best overall times for the 3 races.  Hotlapping is fun but when all the laps count and there is traffic you have to stay on task.

Notes: The Z/28 will not stay under PI with all of the race parts, I chose to leave out the driveshaft.  This will be open to experimentation before a final ruling is made.  It is such a staple of the Muscle Car class that I couldn't see not including it.  Also, the Challenger has 2 issues, it starts with 235's and it is a big heavy car.  To remedy this tire widening isn't required, I would suggest using that PI to lighten the car.  Other than those two notes anything goes, even Chet's Chevelle and the Chargers.  Any issues that arise fromthis challenge will determine the final pecking order of this series.

Oh, one last thing-Have Fun!

Leaderboards: Closed

Driver          Car          Copperhead  Boomslang  Russels R      Total
SerialZ28 Camaro
114.262
101.566
89.886
305.714
PzR SkeShelby GT500KR
114.314
101.777
89.735
305.826
PzR SkeChallenger
114.233
102.059
90.009
306.301
PzR SkeBoss Mustang
114.371
102.654
90.569
307.594
PzR SkeZ28 Camaro
115.472
102.181
90.370
308.023
PzR SkeTrans Am SD455
113.998
103.102
90.932
308.032
JG4trBoss Mustang
113.965
103.753
90.318
308.036
TheJohnNewtonZ28 Camaro
114.995
102.618
90.506
308.119
Spiny Anteater69 Charger
113.987
103.781
90.397
308.165
PzR SkeBarracuda
114.962
101.940
91.306
308.208
LarryCRZ28 Camaro
115.857
103.093
90.593
309.543
LarryCRBoss Mustang
114.733
103.649
91.537
309.919
TheJohnNewtonBoss Mustang
114.938
104.222
91.427
310.587
Detrick 2006Z28 Camaro
115.018
103.493
92.129
310.640
Drift2XLBoss Mustang
115.864
103.351
91.558
310.773
LarryCRShelby GT500KR
115.132
104.280
91.591
311.003
Bimmerlovere39Shelby GT500KR
114.999
104.173
91.879
311.051
BucksToonZ28 Camaro
115.767
104.023
91.481
311.271
fnderbndrZ28 Camaro
117.144
102.816
91.710
311.670
BucksToonSS Camaro
114.947
105.003
91.988
311.938
OSS - BertBoss Mustang
115.987
104.525
91.668
312.180
OSS - SkunkZ28 Camaro
117.322
103.370
91.585
312.277
Fit4aKingBoss Mustang
115.733
104.214
92.432
312.379
BucksToonGTO
114.629
105.687
92.140
312.456
BucksToonShelby GT500KR
115.253
104.837
92.382
312.472
LarryCRBarracuda
115.969
104.474
92.207
312.650
Snyder005Barracuda
116.618
103.370
92.673
312.661
Detrick 2006GTO
115.098
105.710
92.066
312.874
Drift2XLChevelle
113.965
105.589
93.327
312.881
Fit4aKingZ28 Camaro
116.879
103.849
92.254
312.982
BucksToonBoss Mustang
115.016
105.797
92.291
313.104
fnderbndrBoss Mustang
116.309
104.858
92.046
313.213
Detrick 2006Shelby GT500KR
115.658
105.447
92.243
313.348
BucksToonBarracuda
115.948
105.147
92.406
313.501
Fit4aKingTrans Am SD455
115.945
105.381
92.681
314.007
BucksToonTrans Am SD455
115.808
105.505
92.791
314.104
HekaliteBarracuda
117.048
104.349
93.120
314.517
HekaliteChallenger
117.650
104.837
92.716
315.203
Placard RatBarracuda
116.470
104.943
93.863
315.276
fnderbndrChallenger
117.195
105.047
93.057
315.299
Detrick 2006Trans Am SD455
116.006
105.258
94.182
315.446
Drift2XLSS Camaro
117.582
105.495
93.150
316.227
Jonc30SS Camaro
117.968
106.340
92.420
316.728
fnderbndrShelby GT500KR
118.391
105.634
93.065
317.090
Fit4aKingChallenger
118.630
104.532
94.442
317.604
Snyder005Chevelle
115.920
107.886
95.615
319.421
BucksToonChevelle
116.723
108.207
95.460
320.390
fnderbndr69 Charger
118.468
111.054
93.878
323.400
fnderbndrChevelle
118.281
111.638
96.048
325.967
Silent FlowerGTO
120.390
111.113
98.212
329.715


Inland Taipan Leaderboard

Driver          Car            In-Taipan
Spiny Anteater69 Charger
71.649
TheJohnNewtonZ28 Camaro
71.924
fndrbndrShelby GT-500KR
72.234
fndrbndrZ28 Camaro
72.499
BucksToonZ28 Camaro
72.508
fndrbndrChallenger
72.537
BucksToonBaracuda
72.632
BucksToonSS Camaro
73.042
fndrbndrBoss Mustang
73.695
OSS - SkunkTrans Am (*)
74.806

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« Last Edit: February 08, 2008, 09:07:41 AM by Blooze »
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Re: February Muscle Inc Challenge. Back to your Roots!
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2008, 09:48:27 AM »
Alright! What a neat challenge. Chet is so gonna get his ass kicked!

I do have one early observation about these cars and would appreciate some feedback from the rest of the team here. In prepping Elizabeth I had better luck with the controller than the steering wheel when it came to managing the transfer of weight on these frail tires. I did match my best time with each input device but consistency was with the controller. I believe this goes back to Dan G.'s explanation that the controller has to be programmed basically steer for you when going from full lock to full lock. The weight transfer seemed muted a little bit when compared to the wheel.

DD
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Re: February Muscle Inc Challenge. Back to your Roots!
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2008, 10:51:12 AM »
(OSS) Bert

Boss Mustang

Copperhead: 125.523
Boomslang: 108:68
Russels: 97.53


'Cuda looks good, Blooze!

DD

By the way, it didn't take Chester and his buddies long to zero in on ole Bert!


But payback can be hell...
« Last Edit: February 01, 2008, 11:00:53 AM by DirtDriver »

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Re: February Muscle Inc Challenge. Back to your Roots!
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2008, 11:07:31 AM »
Ah, the joys of waiting on a call back on something...
I threw together a Boss Mustang.  As a side note, I upgraded the width two sizes instead of one, but did have the full race platform aside from the weight reduction.  Is this legal?  Just making sure I understand correctly.  Assuming I haven't done a no-no, the times are:
Copperhead 119.509
Boomslang 109.043
Russel's 96.755
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Re: February Muscle Inc Challenge. Back to your Roots!
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2008, 11:10:27 AM »
Man... I wanna go home and run this.

 :(
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Re: February Muscle Inc Challenge. Back to your Roots!
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2008, 11:12:19 AM »
I did the same, fndr...I think it is OK...I compared steet weight reduction to the extra width and the width gave better handling improvement...rules committee should be along any minute to clarify. This is a damned heavy car, don't you think? LOL

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Re: February Muscle Inc Challenge. Back to your Roots!
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2008, 11:36:18 AM »
It's big, but it's a Mustang, which automatically makes it cool.   ;D
Anyway, I went ahead and ran a Chevelle just because I can.

Copperhead 118.281
Boomslang 111.638
Russel's 96.048

Edit:  It's nice to see that they run so closely together.  Also, the Boss handles much better than the Chevelle.  I wonder how much of that is that you HAVE to put more hp in the Chevelle unless you want to see some PI wasted.
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Re: February Muscle Inc Challenge. Back to your Roots!
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2008, 12:00:34 PM »
Whooop-Whooop-Whooop.....This is the Rules Comittee, put your hand up and let the little boys go !!, oh wait wrong Comitee

Fndrbndr, as long as the car has full platform and at least 215's its legal.
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Re: February Muscle Inc Challenge. Back to your Roots!
« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2008, 12:42:55 PM »
Man... I wanna go home and run this.

 :(

You're lookin' a little pale there, bimmer...you sure you're feeling alright? Might need to go home. You don't look like you feel well.

DD

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Re: February Muscle Inc Challenge. Back to your Roots!
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2008, 12:58:46 PM »
Is the person who has downloaded the leaderboard updating it?

If not, I will update it.

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Re: February Muscle Inc Challenge. Back to your Roots!
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2008, 01:01:31 PM »
Man... I wanna go home and run this.

 :(

Cough...Cough.  I'm feeling a little green around the gills myself....... :-\

Stupid work......

...great idea for a challenge though.  Can't wait to run it.

@Blooze, I downloaded the leaderboard just because it was an excel spreadsheet and I couldn't resist looking at it......I can keep her updated if you want....
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Re: February Muscle Inc Challenge. Back to your Roots!
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2008, 01:02:36 PM »
Only 3 more hours to endure...
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Re: February Muscle Inc Challenge. Back to your Roots!
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2008, 01:04:26 PM »
OSS pit area, first practice session...

DD on the phone: Well, it went a little rough but Bert held his own. Alright, we'll see you when you get here.

Bert: That Trixie?

DD: Yeah, be here tomorrow with Ron. She's playing business woman today. We'll probably own another shop by the time she get's here. What about the car?

Bert: Having a hard time keeping her hooked up. I figure 50% of the problem is getting my line down but I think the other 50% might be in the way she is putting power down. And she may be too low, I don't know.

DD: Well, let's start with the gears and differential. What about that Chevelle?

Bert: Hehe, powderpuff derby driver from what I can see. Drives like he got his skills on the Wal-Mart parking lot.

DD: Let's leave him to Fit and Spanky. From what I hear they have some unfinished business. We better let them be the ones to finish it.

Berts ride is set up with 3.10 FD, stock gears, and diffs set to 35. She is lowered two clicks front and back. Springs are stock. I don't usually start with power tuning but I need to eliminate misbehavior there to get a clear sense of what else is going on.

Edit: FD was actually 3.30!

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Re: February Muscle Inc Challenge. Back to your Roots!
« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2008, 01:10:38 PM »
@Blooze, I downloaded the leaderboard just because it was an excel spreadsheet and I couldn't resist looking at it......I can keep her updated if you want....
No, that's fine.  I just was making sure so that I didn't step on somebody else's work.

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