back to basics?

[TheTechnobear]

hi,
not been been around these parts much lately, as just got a new job - so my xbox time has been severely limited
- and then didnt help myself by getting addicted to assasins creed (now finished

anyways, now im back to FM2

but the question for me is whats next?

my garage is a mess, loads of cars, too many with half finished tunes, no cash, and the career sitting at about 80% oh and i wanna so some more online racing

how do i get myself out of this mess?
any thoughts / suggestions?

one idea i have is to :
-clear out my garage, and really go back to a core set of cars, perhaps 2-3 per class... but which ones?

[Hoplee]

the old ones!

seriously, how about a car that's at least 20 years old from each country in each class. Say, a Porsche, a Ferrari, a Jaguar or Lotus, some old Toyota or Nissan and a Muscle Car to round it out? That should cover the power tracks and the twisty tracks for each class quite nicely... 5 cars per class times 6 classes equals a 30 car garage. Add 2 cars per R-Class and you're up to 38 cars. Then add 12 cars, new or old, that you just want to have around because you like them and VOILA!~ 50 car garage that can handle any challenge in style!

[Fit4aking]

I found myself in the same mess.  After I had all of the cars I didn't know what to do next.  I gave away a bunch of cars I knew I didn't want, I sold a ton of cars to make some cash, and then I started to do some career racing.  It was fun and I felt productive at first but the higher career races didn't require that I use any of the cars I still wanted to build/toon.  I had to devise a plan.  To organize myself as well as figure out how to go about it.

Step 1: The Purge.  I got rid of a ton of cars I wanted but I knew I would get back to. (Sold them to pad the account)

Step 2: Whats Left.  Of the cars I had left I had to organize them.  I painted all of my stock cars white.  All of my built cars black.  All of the cars I didn't have to mess with recieved team colors.  Took some time but now they are all organized.

Step 3: Class organization.  I then went back through and decided which cars were going in which class.  I focused on 3 cars per class for serious tooning.  Any other cars I wanted for a particular class recieved a build just enough to put them into the class but I left them painted white.

Step 4:  Hotlapping.  At this point I decided that I was going to take my tooned cars and fill in the gaps of hotlapping.  I ran through D-class with my 2 favorite D-classers, and I'm on to C-class but I have 3 cars so its taking a little longer.  (this step is a personal choice, if its unimprtant skip it)

Step 5:  Career.  Each time I get on I try to complete at least on Career race.  Not always a full series but at least one race.  I'm up to R classes now and even the 7-9 lap races don't take that long and the cars are pretty easy to drive and mostly pre-tooned.

The Extra's:  Online racing is fun.  I enjoy doing it and I have a long friends list because of it.  I never set out to exclusively run online but some days it happens that way.  I always accept invites even if its only for a couple races.  Then its off to run a career race, toon a car some more, or just go to bed.

The Challenges:  These pop up from time to time.  I compete on some level as it pertains to my interest in the challenge.  The ALMS series served several purposes.  I was able to build a couple cars to A-class that were on my round-tuit list.  I was able to try them online with Hop and Bimmer, and I managed to set times in several cars in the process.  The S-class challenge didn't get as much of my time but I already had a Sagaris prepped and ready to go so it moved along quickly.  The challenges are fun, competative, and the core of how Muscle Inc started.  Although not required I try to give them all a shot to some degree.  I have a bunch of good B-class cars from them and I've had the chance to drive cars that I probably wouldn't have in other classes.

I've rekindled Forza for myself a bit recently.  I'm driving the cars I want to drive in a setting that fits me.  I play online with like-minded people and most times I have a great time.  I'm progressing in Career, slowly but surely, and I have managed to get through D and C class hotlap boards with good results.  Most importantly I'm still having fun.  Hope you find a clear path again.

If you need anything I'll try to help, I can send cars over that I have access to and if need be I can buy a car from you. 

[Blooze]

lol - the Purge

We've all gone through it, some more than once...

My advice is to get Myopic.  Don't look at the big picture - it's just cluttered.  Get A car, pick A class - and stay with it until you have it mastered.  Get the car leveled up.  Paint it. Run its endurance race a couple times.  QR each of the toons you have for it.

I am in the midst of one of those right now.  In my mind I have just two cars - a MInc TA and a MInc Z28.  I am headed for one of each of the MInc cars; tuned, fully ranked, and as good a B Class hotlap ranking as I can muster.  When that is done I'll find a different project.

If I look at all that I could be doing the task is damn near overwhelming.  Keep your immediate Forza world small.

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[Tonka Crash]

After I got the all cars achievements I purged anything that I had never run or had no intention of ever running again.  If they were cars I had to buy at full price they went on the auction house at or a little below sticker price.  If they were region locked cars they went on the auction house at 110-150% of sticker price.  Most of the reward cars I dumped on the auction house at $5000 open no buyout auctions for 8 hours.  If anything I put on the auction house didn't sell they got dumped at the dealer. 

I used AI drivers on R1 and R2 endurance races to make money to buy all the cars, these survived the initial purge because most were level 4 or 5. But as I made money in the auction house the discounts became less important to me.  About a month ago I ended up selling off a lot these, only keeping a couple in each class.

[TheTechnobear]

good to hear others have been thru it

think i will be using the classics as the starting point...

though this time i fancy putting some of the muscle in for power, to counter my euro go karts

any suggestions about which muscle in each class D-S?
i reckon im keeping the cobra for A class - but no idea for the others, though the new trans am will have to feature somewhere,
 
think the key for me this time, is to only have one of each car, and it stays in one class... at the moment, i have multiple jags, dinos in various states of build (distress?)
not of course to mention quite alot of civics

[Detrick]

My personal favs....

D-Class - From a pure hotlap perspective you can't beat the Chevelle....although unless you have a really good tune suited to your driving style I'm not sure how that would work out online.  Not to mention most online rooms see you bring out a Chevelle or Charger and give you da boot.  My personal fav. with a good mix of power and handling is the Challenger.  She's a bit of a boat but handles well.

C-Class - ZR-1

B-Class - Tough one here.  I went back and looked at my hotlap times and found that most were set with either my Dino or Porsche.  But the few American muscle cars that fit the build were the ZR-1 and Challenger.

A-Class - Uh, yeah......the 427 Cobra.  Treat her well and she'll return the favor.  Treat her poorly and she's a real bitch.

S-Class-  Hmmm, I love my Ferrari P330 in S-Class.  I still remember the first time I drove her.....memories.

U-Class and above - Who cares really?

After all this typing I can see I haven't really been any help.....sorry.

[Fit4aking]

I have a good break down of the D-class cars in Spanky's Shop.  The Challeneger is the gripiest of the bunch but she's heavy.  The KR and the Z/28 can set some quick times but from my perspective the Boss is, well, the Boss.   Its my highest ranked D-class car with 215's, street weight reduction and a set of Flowmasters.  Enter the 4-speed hybrid and its off to the races.

C-class is the Cuda for me.  I have set some real fast times with her.  She's run down my local ghost of a pre-wipe MkII in several snakes, as well as some shorter RW ribbons.  I haven't tried the Z/28 or the Mustangs but I'd bet they do well.  The under-powered Z/28 can really hold its own, add more tire to it and you'll be able to use all 290 or more in this class.

B-class is an open book, I have them all and the ZR-1 is on top, close second is the Stingray, followed really closely by my GTO.

A-class, I don't have any classic muscles here, only the Modern SS, a CTS-V and a Panoz.  The Trans am would do well with some more weight reduction and tires but the Cobra is king form the sound of it.

Any higher class is outside of my scope with classics.  Hope it helps.  Check the various garages for multiple class builds of a bunch of cars.

[Hoplee]

if you're using your FCT style cars ('foreign trash', whatever you wanna call 'em!) to cover the twisty tracks, you only need the muscle to be able to hustle around the long stuff like Road America, Sebring, Sunset etc. You could throw in an extra muscle or two with some grip for each class for running against your friends here.

Here would be an example layout for D-Class:

1) Renault 5 Turbo
2) Toyota 2000GT
3) Porsche 914/6 or BMW E30 M3
4) Lotus Elan (can't remember the starting PI but you don't have many options for British classic cars in D-Class. It's probably either this one or the E-Type)
5) Mustang Boss

*EXTRA* Challenger (short track muscle car)
*EXTRA2* Chevelle (sometimes you need a bigger hammer)

There are lots of ways you could build your personal "Group D". The easiest way to keep it simple is to only use your muscle for what it's good at, like the Speedway type tracks. Then you can have extra muscle cars built for grip that aren't ever going to contend in an unrestricted room, but will provide loads of good fun running against the peeps at Muscle Inc. You could even have one missile build at the ready for some silly fun against like minded lunatics. Even if you got all 7 of them for all the stock classes, that's still only 42 cars from D to U Class, with an extra 8 slots left for the R Classes to bring your perfect garage to an even 50.

[TheTechnobear]

part one complete.... well at least everything is now up on auction house
... amazed how long that took.

part two i suppose is resolving bids, and ditching what doesnt sell,

hope the stuff sells - auctions are expensive things

then the 'hard work' of putting each car in its correct class...
- thanks for suggestions, starting to get some idea about where things go now.

esp, looking forward to building up the muscle cars, as its previously been something ive just not gotten
around to - planning on primarily spending their PI on grip... and WR if i have enough

will definitely be popping into spankys and FCT shops over the next few days ... its gonna be busy in my garage!

[Hoplee]

ask questions about any of the foreign classics you don't see posted, I've probably messed with it if it isn't up there yet.

In case you were wondering, there's about 42 cars older than 91 and 35 that are older than 87...

[TheTechnobear]

stage 1 - purge - complete, only made about 6mil but thats enough for my tuning needs
stage 2 - all cars back to stock BUT with springs + arb fitted, and painted white

this main garage is now all classics, basically FCT + classic muscle
+ Audi sports quattro
+ BMW M3
+ Lotus Esprit
(which i think are classics in there own right

stage 3 next... upgrade each car to its relevant class limit and probably gets a WB (i usually start them around 50%)
then each gets QR, and earns its race number
- hoping to have some time to get that done over next few days.


stage 4, individual tuning starts, and they get some kind of team colour...
think i might have something that identifies them as a power, twisty or flow
perhaps a straight arrow for power, wavy arrow for flow and zig zag arrow for twisty,  need to get creative and think about that


oh i do have some guilty pleasures kept, which are excluded from my main garage, these are:
- 2 of each R1-4
- S7,
- Mcclaren F1,
- a modern ferrari (cant remember which one but has calvin and hobbes on it )
- CLK-GTR

[bimmerlovere39]

+ Audi sports quattro
+ BMW M3
+ Lotus Esprit
(which i think are classics in there own right

Aloha to that brother!

[Blooze]

That seems well thought out and functional Techy Bear.  Good luck with it!!

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[JG4tr]

stage 4, individual tuning starts, and they get some kind of team colour...
think i might have something that identifies them as a power, twisty or flow
perhaps a straight arrow for power, wavy arrow for flow and zig zag arrow for twisty,  need to get creative and think about that

Now, I'm not a painter so, I took a very simple approach to your situation with my garage. I set as a favorite, the cars that I was putting any significant seat time into ( which you don't have any need to do now that you've culled your garage ) and then began painting them according to the forza class designation colors. Nothing fancy, just a solid metallic for the body with occasional rim , mirror and brake caliper treatments. Purple for D, Blue for C, Green for B, Yellow for a, orange for S and red for U.

Then I realized that since I had multiple builds of the same car in the same class, I needed to go further... A High HP, heavyweight version would get a dark shade, a combo build would get medium and the all-grip, lightweight build got a light shade.

I can now tell instantly, what car to choose for the track at hand!