What's the best setup for the 1969 Dodge Charger?

[Sabre979]

Currently I have all the top parts for the car, it's now an S961 class car with 1,097 hp.  Other than race parts the only tuning I've done was with the gear set-up and ride height.  Currently my Charger can acheive 242 mph, but I'm having problems with handling.  If I'm in a straight-away the car feels like it's on ice.  Curves are another problem since I do have to slow down quite a bit (allowing other racers to catch me). Is there any particular setup you guys have that you recommend?

I want to keep the car competitive with most cars in the game.  Which means I want to keep the power, weight reduction etc.  The acceleration and top speed are fine imo but it's the handling that I feel is rather weak.  I want the car to feel "sticky" in straight aways, is there a better tire than "race" tires that gives more grip?  I also want the car to handle the curves better aswell.

Thanks

[Blooze]

I'm sorry Sabre, but its because of builds like this one that we take such heat over on the daught gnet.  If you want to figure out how to build out a Charger at MInc specs I'll be glad to help you, but I want no part of a build speced as you have it now.

Blooze
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[bimmerlovere39]

Lord, tell me it ain't a roundy-round car 

[Sabre979]

I'll have to plead ignorance on this one guys.  I hope I'm not opening a can of worms but what is the daught gnet and why are you guys taking heat?

As for building out a Charger at MIinc specs I'd like that too.

[Sabre979]

Lord, tell me it ain't a roundy-round car 

Nope, I race the Charger on all tracks and I've won a few with it.  I just want it to handle better on the curves is all.

[landstuhltaylor]

Muscle Inc. specs dictate the car is in B class with DOT tires. People around here don't really like the "missile" cars, and try to avoid associating with them.

[Hoplee]

The Charger has worked its way to the top of the leaderboards because there's some bad juju going on with the performance index. After a certain point, the PI stops going up or actually goes down as you continue to add power. It's earned the ire of the community as the most popular way to build a missile on four wheels. People expect every Charger that joins a room to be an out of control menace in turn one as 1000 horses wrestle with the driver for control.

I do NOT think that the problem of the 'missile cars' is limited to the Charger. Some people have finally caught on to the fact that you can pull of the same kind of crap with a 700hp CRX in B-Class and I'm even starting to see Elans with maxxed power and stock tires. It's particularly frustrating to people who spend a ton of time looking for tenths in the corners to lose 5 seconds on the straight-a-way of Road Atlanta. The game thinks that you could put hundreds of horsepower down with a 200 dollar set of cheapo tires from Sears, when in reality, that rubber would explode the first time you put your foot in it.

The end result of the missile car mess is that a sizable portion of the community will boot anyone from a room as soon as they choose ANY muscle car, not just the Charger. It's understandable in a way because, on certain tracks like Road Atlanta, it's the only way to win. If one person is using a Charger, then everybody has to switch to 'missile mode'. For a game that brags about it's tire physics, they dropped the ball on this one, and the community is paying the price.

Then there are the results of testing done by our community that points to the Charger having a considerable advantage in the area of aerodynamic drag over any of the other muscle cars except possibly the Chevelle. This advantage hurts the parity that we strive for in our Challenges and therefore, the Charger and Chevelle are often specifically excluded from the work we do here.

I do not mean to discourage you from driving one at all. I love the design and still think the Dukes of Hazzard rule, it's just that the game screwed it up a little bit, along with a 'few' other things...

[Blooze]

Oh...   

Didn't see this...

Daught Gnet = Dot Net  (i.e., The ForzaMotorsports2.net forum)

Aren't I a cute speeler?

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[Sabre979]

The Charger has worked its way to the top of the leaderboards because there's some bad juju going on with the performance index. After a certain point, the PI stops going up or actually goes down as you continue to add power. It's earned the ire of the community as the most popular way to build a missile on four wheels. People expect every Charger that joins a room to be an out of control menace in turn one as 1000 horses wrestle with the driver for control.

I do NOT think that the problem of the 'missile cars' is limited to the Charger. Some people have finally caught on to the fact that you can pull of the same kind of crap with a 700hp CRX in B-Class and I'm even starting to see Elans with maxxed power and stock tires. It's particularly frustrating to people who spend a ton of time looking for tenths in the corners to lose 5 seconds on the straight-a-way of Road Atlanta. The game thinks that you could put hundreds of horsepower down with a 200 dollar set of cheapo tires from Sears, when in reality, that rubber would explode the first time you put your foot in it.

The end result of the missile car mess is that a sizable portion of the community will boot anyone from a room as soon as they choose ANY muscle car, not just the Charger. It's understandable in a way because, on certain tracks like Road Atlanta, it's the only way to win. If one person is using a Charger, then everybody has to switch to 'missile mode'. For a game that brags about it's tire physics, they dropped the ball on this one, and the community is paying the price.

Then there are the results of testing done by our community that points to the Charger having a considerable advantage in the area of aerodynamic drag over any of the other muscle cars except possibly the Chevelle. This advantage hurts the parity that we strive for in our Challenges and therefore, the Charger and Chevelle are often specifically excluded from the work we do here.

I do not mean to discourage you from driving one at all. I love the design and still think the Dukes of Hazzard rule, it's just that the game screwed it up a little bit, along with a 'few' other things...

In a way I guess it's similar with the Ford GT40 MKII.  I see alot of people use that car in races especially at the Nissan Speedway.  Nobody will race with any other car on the Nissan Speedway because the GT40 is pretty much the fastest car in the game.  It gets old with everyone racing their GT40, especially since I'm not much of a Ford fan.

[Hoplee]

Your other car, the Challenger, fits right in. I LOVE being able to put 275 width tires on it. I seem to recall that it's doing pretty well on the snake track challenge...

[landstuhltaylor]

In a way I guess it's similar with the Ford GT40 MKII.  I see alot of people use that car in races especially at the Nissan Speedway.  Nobody will race with any other car on the Nissan Speedway because the GT40 is pretty much the fastest car in the game.  It gets old with everyone racing their GT40, especially since I'm not much of a Ford fan.

I don't mind driving Ford's in-game, but I won't touch one with a 10-foot pole in real life. The only cars I avoid more are German ones when maintenance is involved.

[DirtDriver]

Guys, let's keep this forum for cars we are building...not looking for setups or creating challenges. Post the car you are working on and notes to go with.